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nalabindi

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Question regarding cars. Did JT or his brother in Riverside have this type car?


reported seeing Cheri Jo's car driving up an alley near the college followed closely by a 1965-66 bronze Oldsmobile.
nalabindi

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Is JT's brother still alive? where? Did either own this car then:


The man was never found, nor was the '47-'52 tan-gray Studebaker with oxidized paint that was seen that night.
nalabindi

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Did JT live in Riverside? Was his house or his brother's house near RCC?
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In the online article of Friday, October 17, 2008, which was published by the Press-Enterprise of Riverside ( http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_E_zodiac18.46d65b1.html ), It was reported:

"He [Dennis Kaufman] said Tarrance had been staying with relatives in Riverside at the time of the Bates killing."

Nalabindi, I know that you had seen that article because I happened to see your today's post of 1:11 pm here: ( http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/denniskaufman/vpost?id=2964080&trail=60 ).

Aside from the time period stated in the article relevant to the Bates killing, does it really make any difference where and when Jack Tarrance lived in Riverside at any other times? Or, is it more probable that you just missed grasping that line in the article in your rush to go tap tapping at your keyboard?

An honest answer may bring you more!

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Does Dennis have any theory about the string of murders in SAnta Rosa in the late 1970s could Jack have been involved?
cluznar

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Where did Torrance live from Nov 69 to 1977?
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1968-1970 Jack lived in a school bus that he converted into a motor home and lived in several locations throughout California. Jack lived in Nyack Ca for a short time in 1969.
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68 to 70 Tarrance lived in a school bus. The Santa Rosa murders, then know as The Franz Valley Road Killer are also shown to be murders done by Zodiac. They started in Dec 69 when Leona Roberts was found dead at Bolinas Lagoon near Tiburon, CA.
Ms Roberts had nothing on her but a NAPA H.S. ring which did not belong to her. From then thru a good part of the seventies girls (hitch-hikers) between the ages of 12 and 20 were murdered and their naked bodies dumped off Franz Valley Road and several other sites. They were naked, some raped, and almost all had only one earring on, or 1 other piece of jewelry, mostly one earring. Now can Jack Tarrance be proven to have lived in or close to that area during that time? There is another Zodiac suspect who is proven to have lived around there. Also in Aug 2004 Zodiac killed a young couple at Jenner Beach, Calif. Where was Jack then?

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There are people who have theorized that the Santa Rosa murders were commited by Zodiac, but they are not known Zodiac crimes.

Also, you pointed out that the bodies were dumped nude, and some had been raped. Zodiac is not known to have dumped any bodies, and there was no known sexual element to any of Zodiacs crimes, so the nude bodies and the occasional rapes dont really fit in with his MO.
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Where is it said, the Jenner Beach Ca. killings were a (Z) hit?

Forgot who posted those killings as a Z.
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No offense but the Zodiac changed his MO at times. If you remember in one of his letters he wrote; I will no longer tell you of my murders and some will look like accidents or other things. The Zodiac abducted Leona Roberts from her boyfriends apartment and held her for about 8 days before dumping her body at Bolinas Lagoon, he poisoned her. Also Zodiac wrote; I can be very nasty... Rape was not beyond him. It was Zodiac! He is very cunning and knows how to change MO's, murder weapons, murder locations, etc. He said in his first cipher, figured out by the schoolteachers "That he loves killing" Never underestimate your opponent.
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The killings in Jenner Beach are only compared to the Z killings due to the fact that there are some similarities: couple in a secluded location, no robbery or sexual assault which means murder was the only goal, etc.


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No offense but the Zodiac changed his MO at times. If you remember in one of his letters he wrote; I will no longer tell you of my murders and some will look like accidents or other things. The Zodiac abducted Leona Roberts from her boyfriends apartment and held her for about 8 days before dumping her body at Bolinas Lagoon, he poisoned her. Also Zodiac wrote; I can be very nasty... Rape was not beyond him. It was Zodiac! He is very cunning and knows how to change MO's, murder weapons, murder locations, etc. He said in his first cipher, figured out by the schoolteachers "That he loves killing" Never underestimate your opponent.


Your taking some serious leaps here. Again, kidnapping and holding a victim is in complete contrast to the way we know Zodiac to have operated. Also, there was never any sexual element to his crimes, so I dont buy the idea that he suddenly became a rapist. By your reasoning I could start saying Zodiac resorted to cannibalism which is why Donna Lass was never found.

What evidence do you know of that shows Zodiac is responsible for the Santa Rosa crimes?
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On Zodiac's Halloween card he sent to Police, the skeleton had an earring in one ear. Z's way of claiming the Santa Rosa murders. You truly underestimate Zodiac. He evolved by changing MO's etc. which is why he was smarter than other serial killers. Why do you find rape beyong him? He said in his first cipher killing was better than sex. But he did not say he never has sex. Though a smart individual, Zodiac was also as most serial killers are, part animal. Rape and dumping naked bodies with 1 earring is not beyond Zodiac. An open mind is your best asset. Is cannibalism beyond Zodiac? Probably not, he just never did it -- that we know of.
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Please show me where the earing on the skeleton is

http://www.zodiackiller.com/HalloweenCard.html

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