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cluznar

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Farmer did at one time think A. L. Allen could possibly be Zodiac, until he solved the Zodiac ciphers and riddles and everything pointed to Penn. The Zodiac wrote; Solve these ciphers and you will know who I am and you will have me. Penn IS Zodiac. Everything fits, Zodiac profile and Penn profile fit. How can you not see this? As for Mr. Farmer he has excellent credentials, and has solved a cipher at CIA headquarters which no one has been able to solve. If you want A LOT more proof, go to his website http://www.opordanalytical.com and click on Forum, then on The Zodiac Killer Case. You will find tons of info linking Penn and Zodiac. As I said, the idea is to find the true Zodiac, not who you want to be Zodiac. I can also tell you detectives are interested in Penn right now and are also interested in the Opord report.
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Who outside of his board agrees with his claims that he has solved any of the things that he has claimed to have solved.

Just wondering because I have looked and looked and have not been able to find anybody who agrees with his findings. As far as solving the 340 cipher , I dont feel he has even come close. He has not deciphered it , he merely folded it up and picked out some words. I could be wrong ofcourse but I do not feel it is a solution.

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I can appreciate the efforts made by opord, because as a mathematician, I have traveled many roads myself towards solving who Z is from the evidence made available. But even if one of those roads traveled is very long, if there is a road block, you don't pretend it isn't there, you travel down another road. The Z case is very Bayesian, ie, there's always some other evidence that can be added to change the original algorithm used, thereby getting an improved algorithm. But reading the methods used in the opord report, there are too many holes and is compositionally faliable. But again, I like the effort. My advice to opord is to keep going, but try a few more other methods.
dennislkaufman

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cluznar,

I feel like it is a complete waste of time to even respond to you. If you believe that Penn is the Zodiac, why don't you take your findings to the FBI and see how far you get. You better have a lot more proof than what you have shown here otherwise you won't get past the front gate.

It seems as though this message board is getting infiltrated by Tom Voigt's groupies who are here to keep people from finding the truth. I will take the time over the next couple of days to go through this board and eliminate some of the obvious.

Diamond you have been doing a great job and I do appreciate you helping me with this message board. Don't hesitate to ban anyone that you feel is here to distract people from discussing this case.
cluznar

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First of all Dennis, if it is prooven that Jack Tarrance is Zodiac I guarantee I will apologize to you. As I said the important thing is to get the real Zodiac. Now let me ask you this... Where was Jack Tarrance living From November 1969 to about November 1971?
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cluznar,

I feel like it is a complete waste of time to even respond to you. If you believe that Penn is the Zodiac, why don't you take your findings to the FBI and see how far you get. You better have a lot more proof than what you have shown here otherwise you won't get past the front gate.

It seems as though this message board is getting infiltrated by Tom Voigt's groupies who are here to keep people from finding the truth. I will take the time over the next couple of days to go through this board and eliminate some of the obvious.

Diamond you have been doing a great job and I do appreciate you helping me with this message board. Don't hesitate to ban anyone that you feel is here to distract people from discussing this case.


To be fair there is no one here I would accuse of being one of TV's grouies or being here with the sole purpose of disrupting this board. If you are going to host an honest and open discussion of the case there are going to be a lot of opinions and not everyone is going to agree, that really should be expected. Dnt ban anyone unless they areally are here for the sole purpose of disrupting the board (e.g. all of this Chris Farmer/Gareth Penn nonsense).

Just my two cents.
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Dennis, I agree with you, cluznar says he is open minded about who the zodiac is and will apologize if it is JT yada yada.., but all his posts/statements and links are only for the GP and opord solution....Keep up your good work Dennis!
JoAnneMB1

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To be fair there is no one here I would accuse of being one of TV's grouies or being here with the sole purpose of disrupting this board.


Vulgar, I appreciate your Pollyannish attitude about the posters on this board, but unfortunately such is not the case. The reality is that there've been a vast number of offensive remarks posted here that offered nothing to the conversation except to insult Dennis and the other members of his board. Thanks to Dennis' and Diamond D's diligence, those posts have been removed. Many of us have seen the posts, have received the disgusting emails, and have had our conversations in the chatroom interrupted. I personally have had threatening comments posted in the guestbook of my webpage.

So Dennis, please keep up the good work of screening the members of this board so we CAN have an honest and open discussion of this case without being distracted by the likes of Tom Voigt and his ilk.
cluznar

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I would still like to know where Tarrance lived from Nov 69 to Nov 71?
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Dennis posted this in 07 #2
I cannot disclose all the new evidence that has surfaced linking Jack because we are saving it for the documentary. I will tell you that we recently found what appear to be human remains on a piece of property that Jack owned in the 1970's.

What was the result of the human remains find last year?


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To be fair there is no one here I would accuse of being one of TV's grouies or being here with the sole purpose of disrupting this board.


Vulgar, I appreciate your Pollyannish attitude about the posters on this board, but unfortunately such is not the case. The reality is that there've been a vast number of offensive remarks posted here that offered nothing to the conversation except to insult Dennis and the other members of his board. Thanks to Dennis' and Diamond D's diligence, those posts have been removed. Many of us have seen the posts, have received the disgusting emails, and have had our conversations in the chatroom interrupted. I personally have had threatening comments posted in the guestbook of my webpage.

So Dennis, please keep up the good work of screening the members of this board so we CAN have an honest and open discussion of this case without being distracted by the likes of Tom Voigt and his ilk.


I know the history, Im just saying I havent seen anything like that during my tenure here.
bmallard

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Dennis posted this in 07 #2
I cannot disclose all the new evidence that has surfaced linking Jack because we are saving it for the documentary. I will tell you that we recently found what appear to be human remains on a piece of property that Jack owned in the 1970's.

What was the result of the human remains find last year?

Its funny how for some reason you have to "pay" for information from dennis by buying a dvd documentary. I've never been on tom's board, so i could care less about him. I came to this board becouse someone said there stepdad was Z, i've read the information on the home page and its interesting, but if you have new information spill it and stop jacking us around by say "we are saving for this and that". Sound like to me a lot of this is done for just the money. If you have found what appears to be human remains, what news stations are covering the story so we can read about it online/ what has the FBI said of this?
bmallard

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Has anyone seen this show called Haunting Evidence on tru tv?
http://www.trutv.com/shows/haunting_evidence/episodes.html
On Oct 18th they are going to Ca to hunt down evidence in the Z case. Here is what is says:

Zodiac Killer – NEW!
Premieres Sat, October 18 at 10P
In the late 1960s, Northern California was held hostage by a madman calling himself the Zodiac Killer. Five unsolved, macabre murders. Occult symbols. And an unbreakable code. From December, 1968 through October, 1969 the Zodiac Killer murdered at least five victims, in different manners, in different areas and of different ages. The only constant to his crimes was the subsequent taunting of the police and press in a series of letters, most including cryptograms, or ciphers, three of which have never been decoded. Nearly 40 years later, the Zodiac killer remains unnamed, and the murders and stabbings remain unsolved. The Haunting Evidence team heads to California to search for answers that have been buried for decades.


Has dennis been contacted by the show to show what he has? I will be tuning in. Should be interesting.
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Nobody is really out of suspicion until this case is resolved!


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Nobody is really out of suspicion until this case is resolved!


So are you saying ALA is still a viable suspect? He was ruled out by DNA so I think that pretty much solidifies him as 'out of suspicion'
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