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DiamondD

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Whiz,

In my book marks I currently have 43 web pages/sites. I hardly think the Internet needs another Zodiac website/message board. However, if you feel motivated to set one up, by all means. I'll make yours #44 in my list.

This board makes no qualms about the fact that it is focused on the possibility/probability that Jack is Zodiac. It however is not limited to just discussing Jack as you can see from other threads/posts.

You can always go and pay to read and post on TV's board and hope that you can under extreme censorship actually post about "your" suspect. Your loaded with choices whiz.

The "broadened ideations" and "questions" about this case can be asked about any of the usual suspects, including Jack. Are we "attempting to make it work" in regards to Jack, of course we are. At some point theories have to be applied and in this case we are here to try to apply the multiple upon multiple theories to Jack. Remember all those years the theories where "attempted to make them work" against ALA? well, now it's Jack's turn...
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RE: DD's commentary: <I hardly think the Internet needs another Zodiac website/message board.
<This board makes no qualms about the fact that it is focused on the possibility/probability that Jack is Zodiac.

fmpov:
veracity, and especially focus-- on boards such as these are beneficial if not essential, and imho the drift on this board now seems to be the overarching if not prevailing theme. not to mention unrelated babble and lack of anything j. tarrance.

pls deregister me or if i need to do so, let me know the process. all the best.
many thanks.
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whiz,

I expressed an opinion, you expressed yours, I personally will not de-register you simply because we have differing opinions. If you no longer wish to post here, so be it, the choice is entirely up to you.
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This board makes no qualms about the fact that it is focused on the possibility/probability that Jack is Zodiac.
You can always go and pay to read and post on TV's board and hope that you can under extreme censorship actually post about "your" suspect. Your loaded with choices whiz.
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That would be a good idea but Jack Tarrance does not appear in the suspect lists at all on the TV site. I am here just for the JT's stash linked news.
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For what it's worth, I can personally vouch for the fact that Diamond D and Dennis Kaufman are NOT the same man.

As for Dennis posting late at night/early in the morning, I don't see what relevance that has to anything. Besides, he's on the west coast and many of us are on the east coast... of course there's a time difference we're dealing with.
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WAR OF SOULS,

Here is some photo's that show Jack's tattoos a little better.

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WARofSOULS

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Thanks Dennis, the tatoos are very interesting, I'm gonna take a closer look.
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Maybe it is the influence of the services. He looks like a Police Officer to me. And yes, I cannot see the tats but I do see the shining shoes
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do you have any idea when will FBI release results of DNA testing?
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Dennis,

Did jack have a lathe? Or any books from Paladin Press /Soldiers of Fortune ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paladin_Press / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldier_of_Fortune_magazine ). If he did then there is a chance that he made his gun silencers/supressors or even modified guns etc.

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Is that a police badge in one of Jack's photos, Dennis?
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No it is not a police badge, it is just a security guard uniform. Jack was head of security at Hewlett Packard until he retired in 1990.
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Dennnis, Have you read the Opord Zodiac report by Christopher J. Farmer? Zodiac wrote "Solve these ciphers and you will know who I am. I'm afraid with the ciphers solved and all pointing to Gareth Penn as Zodiac, your stepfather may have only been a killer and not Zodiac. Did you ever think he may have just wanted attention and in his warped mind he wished he could be the Zodiac? Maybe he made up the Hood to make people believe he was Zodiac? I think he was a sick man who wished to be like Zodiac. Gareth Penn fits the Zodiac profile to a T and Zodiac fits Gareth Penn. Read the Opord report then tell us what you think. "Sorry to screw up your 15 minutes of fame, but getting the real Zodiac is more important".
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Cluznar,

I've read the Farmer report and believe, just as so many cipher theorists, he makes some interesting comparisons/coorelations using the full body of Z's correspondence. Kudos on his attempt.

However, I believe Farmer's report loses a great deal of crediblity due to the fact that prior, Farmer made an equally convincing case against Arthur Leigh Allen, using the same avenues of interpretation he uses for Penn.

I was most struck by the depth of his probing, drawing from such diverse and sometimes obscure history, culture, and mathematics, only to have his final conclusion hinge on the pen and dragon cards and "Pendragon." If anything, I believe this superficial conclusion points more clearly to ARTHUR Leigh Allen than Gareth Penn, and confirms my theory that that his current theory is simply a bastardization of his prior regarding ALA before he was cleared by DNA.
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I have read that Farmer report too and I am not very impressed with the proofs that GP is zodiac. Some of the connections seem plausible, others are too fanciful or far-fetched, and others just beggar the question...Just because a self-consistent logical theory can be put together doesnt mean that it is correct...Too much of what Farmer has done seems to me to simply be arguing after the fact, finding dubious 'keys' to bolster an interpretation etc.....Way tooo much of what Farmer has done is far more complex than anything that we know Zodiac did - the Zodiac ciphers that were broken are no where near as convoluted as Farmer's are - he seems to have created complexity in the ciphers/case just for the joy of finding clever ways to connect the dots and decipher it as it were...I am sorry if I seem too harsh here but I have seen such clever 'back-engineering' in the past to not point out I think that is the case with much of Farmers work on Z. Overly complex and convoluted theories, connections, and decryptions can be just as easily explained as tayloring the theory to fit the data - we all need a shave from Occam's razor every now and then...Gareth Penn is not the Zodiac and there is no valid proof that he is such
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