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catseye

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Thank You, viewers, readers and online chatters for coming and looking at real, honest investigative processes into the Black Dahlia case! This particular thread is for discussing the negatives found in Jack Tarrance belongings that modern technology has helped clear up what is on this one particular negative! The negative is now in LAPDs hands. I see the online chatter jumped when I posted this threads link online. Thank you for the interest!
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MisterBee

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I don't see it...sorry.
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Yeah, got to agree. I also don't understand the need for such dubious evidence when there is obviously reams of overwhelming empirical evidence pointing to jack as Z. You've got the FBI apparently confirming a handwriting match (even though Nanette says the FBI claims it is inconclusive) DNA evidence matched to Denny as Dennis mentioned last year. Speaking of which I'm glad they were able to match that before the DNA degraded like Dennis reported earlier this year. Caught a break there. Plus they have the hood and the knife!!! Jeez, what more do you need? Certainly not a walmart employee messing with evidence. The SFPD is now cooperating with the FBI according to Dennis' announcement a while back so it seems like this one is in the bag!

Just my two cents right now but I'd reel catseye in a bit. She's damaging the case with her insane ramblings and 'tweets'. She's destroying credibility IMO.
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jimmydean your brain is as fried as your sausage. I know of some pitbulls that would love to devour you.
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jimmydean

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And....point made.

Also, don't threaten me with violence.
MisterBee

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I'm sorry, but what do sausage and pitbulls have to do with the Black Dahlia? Please, catseye, let's try to remain serious in our discussions.

My main problems are that the photo really looks nothing like Elizabeth Short in any way, and, contrary to what Nanette said, Short's jaw was NOT removed. Her mouth was sliced from the corners to make a sick "smile" of sorts.

The picture more closely resembles one of the creatures from the cult classic horror film "Trilogy Of Terror" than an actual human being. That or a Halloween decoration.
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Ah, I see. Well, that certainly makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the correction.
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In my opinion, the photos discovered by Dennis that belonged to Jack Tarrance, compared to the autopsy photos of Elizabeth Short are too similar to dismiss. I realize we can all see things differently, but seriously, IMHO the similarities are just to numerous....what else could the photos be of??? A copycat killing?? A prank?? A halloween decoration?? Seriously?? I have to respectfully disagree with MisterBee....

I do however agree that catseye be reeled in...way in....Im sorry catseye, I know you've been around along while but you really do need to stop posting...it's absolutely painful to read your posts and I have to believe it is hurting credibility here...

catseye

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Everybody posting here lately, I was given the o.k. to give the Black Dahlia issues a public boost, so, I am not hurting the cases by posting online. Dennis and Nanette's work was Realtime, all over the globe, last weekend which brought people back to Dennis' site and this thread. It was being discussed online, according the realtime sources I see. All of you complaining about me posting need to come into the 21 century and be where the public is at and help the cases. They aren't really at MBs anymore unless you advertise it, so, people can discuss it and they usually aren't going to join MBs anymore but new tracking software reveals what people are discussing in online faxes, emails, Social Networks, sites, forums. It is the wave of the future, it is the news! Is that not better to have going on then just a few coming here to add comments with some that rant and rave? So give it a rest, stop complaining.
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trainmaster

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Hello, again, NanetteB and others:

It has been over a year since the last post on these "Black Dahlia" pictures......

any new development? The LAPD were supposed to look at the original negatives, I think - what happened with that?

The Zodiac cases were in California and so was the Black Dahlia...all of these findings on both seems be get back seat attention from the authorities, maybe because these are old cold cases and California does not have the money, since they are so broke, to give a thorough investigation. The "Zodiac" costume discovery and films with these negatives (about Black Dahlia) should wake one of the official investigators up!
Isn't it so easy to say "the findings are inconclusive" as an excuse to ignore it?

Back in the 1980's when I was in Hollywood often, I looked into this case (no heavy research of any kind)- no significant finding like on this thread - just the usual - and no surprises -the fields where that tragic event took place are now subdivisions....anyone wanting to go to the Google Satellite map site can key in 1852 Ivar Street and see the Alto Nido apartment building and exact unit where Elizabeth Short lived at the time she was murdered. Neighborhood looks nice
and, except for the cars today, one can almost picture 1947
looking at the building. So much of Hollywood has changed, but not this area. Elizabeth Short is buried in Mountain View Cemetery in Oakland, same place as some of my relatives. (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=4490) PS: I don't know about the murder info on that site, but I do know that the cemetery personnel will say she is there, but don't indicate where - they won't tell you! That's a BIG place to search!

In 2003, the book "The Black Dahlia Avenger" was a major release.
I bought a copy - have yet to read it. The movie??? I have yet to see that as well, although I have a DVD copy. (If the movie was like David Fincher's "Zodiac," it probably is more fiction than truth!

This thread is more appealing than the book. Any new developments in the picture, or the case, I look forward to reading. Thanks to all of you (except those unnecessary wise-crack remarks by members probably gone and should be), for very interesting reading. Since it has been over a year, I hope this issue has not lost interest.

I am just getting started with the threads. The entire (RealZodiacKiller.com) site is outstanding! I know it took a lot of work to put all these contents together, but I am glad you did.

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Dennis & Nanette are in LA right now, turning over Jack Tarrance evidence regarding the Black Dahlia cases: Negative(s) and handwriting....so, stay tuned. As soon as I hear more, I'll post. There's lots of activity going on, right now, regarding Jack.
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The photo is pretty amazing. The more I look at it the more things I see that match the Black Dahlia autopsy photos.

The mark on her nose matches up perfectly with what is shown in the autopsy photo. In the photo here, it looks like there's something across her forehead holding her down. In the autopsy photo there are cut/impression marks on her forehead. As Dennis stated and others agreed with here, the cheekbone structure is a direct match.

While researching a little on the Black Dahlia case I found out her birthday was 50 years exactly to the day I was born....weird.

I wish Dennis the best with this case and of course with the case on Jack as Zodiac. I find the mountain of the evidence, that Dennis has discovered, very fascinating and I'm convinced Zodiac was Jack Tarrance.
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The photo does appear eerie in nature and may in fact be photos of the Black Dahlia murder in progress. The one thing that bothers me though is that from my understanding miss Short was bisected in half from her verterbral column(not sure which numbers), and this is a procedure for someone with medical experience. Can anyone shed any light into facts if jack had any medical training whether it could be a field medic or mortician? Even the most avid hunter may not have the stability and precision to dissect vertebrae perfectly!
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Thanks for the updates NanetteB. The photos in the photobucket link are amazing. The earrings give me chills when I see them. Black and Gold may mean Life and Death....and the cross could be either Maltese Cross or a stylized Celtic Cross and I am going to say it's the latter because Celtic Cross are often in a Circle i.e. Cross/Circle and just among many meanings for that symbol JT was familiar with. The 1950 Army Discharge tells me alot but I'll keep that to myself for awhile (things I didn't mean to work on but learned alot about lately). The postal keys with the zip code and subsequent 4 digits tell it's 1980 or 1990s, so, hope that helps but this Power Point thing is yours. Go Girl! It looks amazing and, oh, the small knife that might be bone handle, looks like what is used in hunting or fishing but not too sure. Just my observations. I'll be looking at those pictures, again.
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catseye

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NanetteB, I'm wrong about what I thought were postal keys. They are GMAC Michigan keys with the zip code & 4 extra digits as it could go farther back than 1980s. It's the zip code with the company P.O. Box. They are car keys and GMAC has history for funding loans to big companies like Cab companies where they would make a bulk fleet of cars in Michigan...just throwing it out there but I wonder if they are c. 1970 Yellow Cab keys? Just curious because there are numbers on those car keys as if they should correspond to a Cab Car number. This may bring out the naysayers....but YES, I am refering to Infamous Missing Paul Stine's Yellow Cab keys. They look to be from that era. I used to own a 1962 Dodge Polara Custom 880 and keys looked similiar: one for ignation and one for trunk. Lastly, if keys were lost & was GMAC, the postage would be free and would go to the zip/P.O. Box combo, numbers would ID company who they financed to get the vehicle(s) and would be returned to them.
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