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dennislkaufman

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On one of the rolls of film that Stephen Dewhurst developed was a photo of Elizabeth Short (Black Dahlia), and on this same roll of film is a young child named Suzanne Degnan, a victim of the Lipstick Killer. This photo on Jacks film is also a photo of a photo.

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Hey Dennis, The picture work Stephen is doing is great and I look forward to more. Can these photos be enhanced more by the FBI or by Stephen Dewhurst? I'd like to see more when you have them (I'm sure everyone would). I am amazed at how much info you've compiled on this subject - all the evidence is extremely interesting and compelling. I also think the picture you compared to BD photos is creepy and compelling - looks like the mouth is cut just like on police photos of BD. Jack's pictures next to the sketches of Zodiac are so close - almost like the artist used him as the model for the sketch. Keep up the good work on this site, I really enjoy reading it and was recently able to get registered, thanks to Catseye for that (Hi Harriette). I'm interested to see how you progress with this. I wish you luck and hope that a huge plate of CROW is served up to your detractors. Best wishes, Richard
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Dennis, as you can tell, I can discuss just about anything regarding crimes with no qualms about it but this photo makes my hair stand on end. What I think I see gives me the creeps. I think I see a double-exposure with the upper photo of the little girl putting her hand to her mouth in fear and the lower photo has an adults arm & hand violently grabbing her head by the chin.

Hi, sailorrick, glad to see you posting here! Welcome aboard!

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Has anyone verified these findings besides Mr. Kaufman or the Professor?
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catseye, thanks for the welcome. I see exactly what you pointed out on the Degnan picture as well. After comparing the BD photos from JT's film and the police photos, it sure looks like that is BD in the photo - breast cut in same pattern as police photos and face cut is same......gives me chills to contemplate these things. I always wondered why law enforcement never caught Zodiac -- he interacted with them so much! One thing that strikes me as obvious is the way these different cases have a killer taunting police. By the way, where the scorpion letter is signed "scorpion", it almost looks like a JT written in there??? Keep up the good work guys, this is an all time mystery - and what a story. I wish JT would have been made to pay for his crimes but it looks like he got through his life without suffering consequences for these horrific acts.
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There's another point I have to bring up about her in the picture and that is it looks like it may be a homemade camera. I was shown something in a art class at a center I used to go to in San Francisco, that you can make your own camera and load the film in a cardboard box with a tiny hole, take still pictures for 10 to 30 secounds or more while camera's on a stable surface. If I recall correctly, you covered up the hole, went to a dark room, turned the film to the next frame, then went out to take another picture but this was 20+ years ago. You risk taking double exposures if you don't turn the roll of film completely. But if the subject moves then you get the effects seen just like in the picture at the top of this thread. This could also be taken with a slow speed shudder and those cameras from the 1940s, like a Brownie, often got double exposures because of not manually turning the roll right. Gee, I know more about photography then I give myself credit for.
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sailorrick, yeah, I thought I saw an old latin J font that's reversed combined with a T, JTs are everywhere in so many letters but right now, what the FBI is backing Dennis on: Zodiac, BD, and I believe also LK and that's where the focus should be. There's the "True Crime with Aphrodite Jones" show coming that will help place Jack smack dab in the middle as Zodiac Killer. Then the rest spirals out from there. Some of us at the MB are so far ahead of the pack when it comes to understanding Jack Tarrance as the most prolific killer of all time and I see rick you're probably past Jack as just Zodiac Killer, too, and here this thread is focusing on linking Jack to Lipstick Killer. IMO, I don't think the FBI would be allowing their credibility to be tampered with by Dennis presenting the picture here and saying it was Dagnan, if there wasn't already something in the wings.
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In answer to Profiler's enquiry:

Dennis is posting interpretations and conclusions based upon his collaboration with others, not me. He has one or more people looking at these things and trying to verify them, I think. Dennis can speak to that, if he wishes.

I am not yet ready to make public what I think the film shows or means, beyond what I have said previously. I can comfirm that I did a lot of additional work on the photos, that there are pretty amazing improvements in the clarity and interpretability of many of them, and that it seems that they are generating a lot of new ideas. I've got plenty of them!

But, some things are still frustratingly murky and subject to multiple interpretations.

BTW, the photo on the left in Dennis's 5:07 PM post (from yesterday)is reversed (its flipped horizontally). That's my fault, as it was accidently printed that way when I gave it to him, a while ago. The stuff I have given him recently is properly oriented.

I'm back to lurking.
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The photo's that are open to interpretation are worthless. I don't have the time or the energy to waste on anything that isn't factual evidence. Here is a better photo for comparison. If you turn the photo from Jacks film over since it is backwards, it will even be more obvious it is Suzanne Degnan.

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This is what I mean when I say factual evidence. The photo of Elizabeth short that was on Jacks film can be overlayed with a photo of Elizabeth's autopsy photo and everything lines up so well you can't even tell it's an overlay. Most important is how well the cut accross her face lines up perfect in both cases, and that is a fact and not an opinion.

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Holy Moly, this is crazy...The BD pictures are very creepy. This is really amazing, I mean did you ever think this could be possible?? Wow......

Anyways, I am glad to see you (Dennis) posting more and revealing new info to us. I was wondering; do you and Prof D still have a good working relationship? Do you guys collaborate on these issues still?

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Dennis, really, these pictures give me goosebumps even as I type this reply! Keep going dude! I'm glad to be here at this time. I look at pictures that I can tell from my own personal experience are decades old.
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that whould mean that and innocent man was found guilty.i am not going to say his name but wow!!! this could be really big as it turn's out jack kept pic's of his most priced possesion's.which in turn make's me sick to my stomach what he did to that little girl.i hope that his all come's to light and a;ot of people get there justafacation even you dennis.the most you.
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Can someone explain to me why this is "great stuff". Please give me a summary...
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jafar, why can't you follow this? Start with the CBS13 posts that have the rolls of film, look at the threads that Dennis has posted at. The key point that alot of us are able to follow is that these same pictures were on the same roll that had crystal clear pictures of Noel, that they are pictures of old pictures. As my post here has brought up, if you know what happens to old color film that hasn't been developed for years, it decays differently than old Black & White. It seems that these decades old color pictures were developed later, then photos of them taken. Then there's the issues of old cameras and manually turning the rolls inside that often got double exposures and then also, manual shutter speeds. If the shutter is set at several seconds and the subject moves you can get effects like what is in the picture. The latter sentences after the fact that these are pictures of pictures is my personal experiences with old cameras and family photos, old film rolls. Try and follow this jafar....I think you can do it.
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