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holden_mate

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Sorry for the OT post but the Pepper band photo is not Gandhi. It is Jinnah. Everyone on the web just used cut and paste and called it Gandhi.

http://www.ruraluniv.ac.in/Gandhi%20with%20Jinnah.JPG

Gandhi had bigger ears as you can see

several photos of gandhi (childhood to death)

http://www.ruraluniv.ac.in/gallery%20of%20gandhi.htm

This is a Jinnah cap

http://images.google.co.nz/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&q=jinnah+cap

Though I agree that the image is of a freshly dug grave but the idol is not the Hindu destroyer god.
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JCloser,
A wise man once told me: 'You have to choose which hill you're going to die on". I happily withdraw the troops on the John Lennon front. I think the Beatles just got a little too infatuated with their guru status. Why society thinks people are wise because they can act or sing or write pretty melodies I'll never understand. Why entertainers think they're wise is easy- they become seduced by their own press and the adoring masses.

All I ever meant to say was that a lot of wierd things were going on back then. People experimented with the occult like they experimented with sex and drugs. Most of them had no real conviction about anything -but the true leadership of the counterculture had connections to Crowley and many of them paid homage to him then and now.

The funny thing is that they all used to talk about how rock 'n' roll was like a drug and the music could change the world- and science seems to say that they were right all along. Recent studies mapping brain function show that rock music affects the brain- chiefly the limbic lobe (where agression is stored) and the amygdala (the 'lizard brain')- much the way drugs do. Of course it's more subtle and the speech and motor skills aren't affected so it's not as noticable. In other words, a subject listening to say, Bach or Bing Crosby or McCartney singing 'Yesterday' shows mainly activity in the fronal lobe where music appreciation normally occurs. But listening to hard rock the brain is all lit up in the same areas as a subject drinking whiskey. With modern stuff like Marylin Manson or rap almost nothing is happening in the frontal lobe -the whole experience is in exciting the 'lizard brain'. There's even some evidence that prolonged exposure creates an addiction of sorts.

Standard disclaimer: I enjoy rock music. I enjoy whiskey, too. I indulge in both in moderation even though I'm pretty sure neither is really good for me.

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"My mama says that alligators are onery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush." But Colonel Sanders said aggressive behavior in alligators is caused by an enlarged Medulla Oblongata.
JCloser

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Columbo, you are back on the case

I've posted a link to submarine that someone I think Holden posted.

This is not directed at you Columbo, but rather at the board activity since Dennis' recent discoveries. People are getting so far from anything credible and it is becoming a pointless exercise. This board is becoming as worthless at the other site. I have to say that this is the very reason that Z will never be solved and that this board and TV boards become worthless. People start to leave the credible for the far fetched.

Come on, this is the hand of Mendes that keeps getiing talked about. I guess I'm a Mendes man my self because I used to make this very same gesture when I was 5 years old. Every time I'd play cops and robbers I'd shoot my imaginary gun by using my hand--specifically using my middle finger as the trigger finger. Every time I "pulled" the trigger my hand would be in this "Mendes" position. I wish someone would have told me back then I was a satanist so that I would not have wasted all that time going to Sunday school.

I mean come on guys, this kind of making up crap only muddies the water. Stick to facts and build theories based on facts. Everything I just read was way out there theories based on far fetched opinions or interpretations. Please build theories based on facts.

Lastly, used to make the Hawaiian hand signal for hang lose, you know the one I'm talking about. How do we know that this Mendes signal is not a bunch of dumb shits that do not know how to make the Hawaiian hang lose symbol. Don't you see that when you start to delve into the super far fetched how far anyone can take it. Maybe Zodiac was a very stupid Hawaiian surfer?







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JCloser

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I've posted the Mendes/Submarine thing here. This is rediculous.


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LtColumbo

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JCloser,
You are exactly right. I guess I started all this. I wasn't trying to put us off track. I only meant to give a feel for the socio-political climate of the Z heyday for those too young to remember it.

The Beatles are so revered that defense of John Lennon overshadowed all the rest. I should have left them out. Few people know that Lennon was a die-hard Texas football fan and was really telling the world 'hook 'em horns!' [now that's far out]

BTW I'm really surprised I haven't heard from the 12-steppers! Usually I get death threats when I touch on Bill Wilson and the occult! Naw, they're not a cult. (chuckle chuckle)

Lets try to bring it back to Z. Buzz Gordon said that Ferrin was involved with drugs and the occult and wanted out. Most of her friends confirm involvement in both. She spent her spare time in SF. She changed her whole circle of friends, lost a lot of weight very quickly, suddenly could afford lots of expensive clothes and a house on a waitress' salary, and scribbled the names & phone #s of Lutheran ministers in a harried hand on the last page of her address book. There were anonymous tips to police about a satanic cult. Faraday -according to Butterbach's report -held his ring between his thumb, middle and ring finger. That would make it... Nope. Don't want to go there again!

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TE

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(From JoAnneMB1 - Wow! Your book makes us non-believers sound pretty pathetic! Just to set the record straight, modern Satanists don't worship Satan -- in fact, we don't even BELIEVE in Satan (or God). Rather, we choose to base our lives on the natural world and on the here-and-now (as opposed to a belief in an afterlife). Satanism and its most important virtue is the enjoyment of life. YOU are God, and this is YOUR world (not God's). A great poem which explores a woman's internal struggle between belief in God and belief in the natural world (paganism/Satanism) is "Sunday Morning" by Wallace Stevens.

It makes me wonder why some Christians try to paint Satanists as pitchfork-carrying monsters wearing dark robes and sacrificing babies. Why does the author of your book try to make the case that prostitution, pornography and drugs go hand-in-hand with Satanism? To me, this says more about Christianity than it does about Satanism.

Did you guys know that someone on this board actually wrote a book about this very topic? Who can guess the author? )

[B]Sorry - did not mean to get your Witches Pot boiling over with this post
- but per haps you should have read the book I refered to before posting your info on your "personal" belief. In my opinion, I'm sure there are many types of Satanic Cults out there just like there are many different Christian Churches out there. Read the book and tell me if this is you Satanic Cult and i will be sure to steer clear of you - this book mentioned THIS Satanic Cult meeting at night in the woods and going through very odd rituals (killing of dogs etc....) Does you Satanic belief find it OK to kill dogs during your worship?
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greengreen

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Thanks DiamondD, those are good sites. A little to academic for me, but they have some good info

I also found this interesting, but I'm not sure what it all means:
http://www.dennislkaufman.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4924442&trail=135
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Why is the [George W.] Bush family so obsessed with the signal, displaying it dozens of times during both the inauguration and the evening ball?


If someone can't understand why a former Governor of Texas, and a resident of Austin as of that morning, who was celebrating one of the most monumental days of his life- if you don't know why that guy was throwin' the horns ... well, for starters, then you don't understand Texas' culture.

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