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...I always suspected that she was a crack pot....
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I called Special Agent Chris Hopkins this morning and let him know that I cut all ties with Nanette, she no longer represents me in any manor. I will be removing her findings from my website as well.
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That's unfortunate but you gotta do what you gotta do. How do you feel this will impact the handwriting analysis?
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Read all of jbradfield66's post's Dennis, don't trust, him he's a mole.
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Well, I could argue that someone who tries to turn every conversation into a discussion about a secret underground cabal of elite pedophiles, that included jack tarrance, is attempting to discredit the case with wild and preposterous theories.

If you read all of Terrys posts you'll find that he likes to direct the discussion towards pedophilia and pedophile rings and chooses to talk about JonBenet Ramsey at the expense of any actual zodiac discussion.
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That statement by jbradfield66 clearly demonstrates he is not to be trusted.
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No Terry, it doesn't. You've done nothing but over react and get your hackles up. The same thing you do whenever anyone who isn't nanette posts. The fact that you are always on the defensive and avoid direct questions certainly is suspicious behaviour. What I have stated regarding your contributions to this board is a demonstrable fact. You are just baselessly accusing me of, honestly I don't even know what. Odd behaviour.
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We'll all I say is Dennis... FLOVA is the key... Halloween card and envelope.

None the Less don't know the women, but Nanette gave me an eye to examine hand writing, which I thinks an interest art.

It's a pity for a LOT of Work you've done Dennis providing her with all this info... and a lot of work shes done too obviously... But as you say it's the motives that are the core issues and objectives...

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This public bickering back and forth is pointless. TerryB and jbradfield66, you have made your points about what you think of each other. If you really feel you need to continue the discussion, why don't you take it to pm's and stop subjecting the rest of us to it?

TerryB, I think jbradfield66 is just trying to get a rise out of you. If I were you, I wouldn't even respond to them.
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I've asked terryb to address me with a direct question, or statement in regards to the case and I will respond but to otherwise leave the accusations and name-calling out of it. So far he hasn't been receptive to that request.
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LOL... Gives them something to do...
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Dennis, I think you should be aware that Nanette is trying to spin this.

http://nanetteb.websitetoolbox.com/post/Dennis-Kaufman-5721184

Nanette writes:

This thread will be dedicated to the false hearted, and it will include the many lies of people I have encountered since my time involved with the Zodiac case. Namely, Dennis Kaufman.

I would like to start by saying that many people on the Internet were very right about the lying and dishonesty of Dennis Kaufman. While at first, I didn't want to believe them because it only appeared that they wanted to beat up on the truth, I have discovered that their thoughts about Dennis were true.

This does not mean that I discount my handwriting findings, and I do still believe that Jack Tarrance is the Zodiac Killer.

What I do discount is the ability for Dennis to ever have any impact on the closure of this case. Between his inability to be honest, good as his word, loyal, and appreciative of anyone who works on this case for him, especially when it's free, he uses, abuses, takes from people while lying straight to their face that he will pay them back.

He has recently moved in with catseye because of his lack of ability to keep and maintain a job or a home, and he sincerely believes that all the hatemongers against him in this case including the government keeps him from ever getting anywhere. Wow, what a complete lack of acceptance of responsibility to blame everyone but themselves for the loss of their entire life. The sad thing is, is that he is taking a girlfriend down with him. She has lost everything since she got together with him, and that's a complete shame.

Dennis will tell whatever story to whomever he feels will benefit him regardless of the effect it has, and he will burn any bridge that does not continue to give to him without expectancy of any reciprocation.

I will be posting the most recent emails from Dennis and I to clear up the fact that I dropped him a little over a month ago when he failed to keep his word yet again. I gave him back all of JT's belongings and told him I would no longer work on the case with him. I did so because I have what I need from JT's belongings to make my point, and I do not need Dennis for what I will be doing next.



This man goes onto his own message board, lies about me and bans me from being able to respond to his slanderous allegations. Yesterday I filed a police report against him, and today I removed each and every post I have ever made on his board including threads (since he is such a "lame" as he likes to put it, he doesn't understand that even if you ban someone it doesn't stop them from deleting every thing they have contributed unless you delete them) Speaking of which, I deleted my membership as well because I believe that just being associated with Dennis could be damaging to my career.) Quite frankly he does not deserve the fruit of my efforts. Tomorrow I will be filing a restraining order, and if he doesn't remove his slanderous thread of "Nanette Barto" I will be filing a Civil Tort against him to prevent him from attempting to callously degrade me and my career. It didn't have to be this way, but as I said Dennis likes to burn bridges. He could have left well alone, but that wouldn't be Dennis. He has to make things worse than they are when he doesn't get his way. I experienced it with the Tim Miller situation, and other occasions I will touch on at another time.


I will be back shortly with the emails where Dennis has obviously lost it. The only saving grace for me, is that when he made a false police report to the Citrus Heights Police Department yesterday, he foolishly used the same language to erroneously report me to them that he used in an email he sent me just hours before. The officers indicated that his threats by email are a federal offense, and I have placed a call to Chris Hopkins to follow up on them as well. The Officers verified that every claim Dennis made was entirely untrue, so there was no report filed against me. Which is great for me, but bad for Dennis. I have captured a shot of all his accusations to be able to show the courts.


I personally love where he lies to the message board saying that he removed my findings from his message board, he was so lame that he lost his website URL for failure to pay. It is up for grabs to the highest bidder. If you don't believe me try http://www.therealzodiackiller.com for yourself. Wow, this man couldn't tell the truth if he tried. I removed my postings and threads NOT Dennis.....


A new thread can be started to address this conversation if people would like, but this will be locked in order to preserve the integrity of the information that will be place here, so there is no interruption in the evidence.




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nanette continues her accusations. Of course, there is no way to prove the e-mails she publishes are from Dennis.


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My problem with Dennis started when he kept me up until midnight waiting for him to show up with a letter from someone who supposedly had information on DL's kidnapper. I was told that it was waiting at a friends house here in Sac and he was on his way to get it, and get the ID's he claims to have from his storage shed, and I that I would finally be able to see them.



He pawned some gold that catseye gave him to pay his storage fee, but when we got there the bill was more than he got from the gold. I am use to paying for things for him, so I offered to pay the difference in order to save the ID's. Dennis didn't want to spend all that he had gotten from the gold on the storage shed, and claimed that he would gain access later that night on the sly, and would bring everything by my house that night. He then proceeded to pay his brother's cell phone bill which I thought was a complete misuse of the gold that catseye had lent him. I mean come on, what is more important, evidence in this case or a cell phone???



Anyway Dennis called me at about 5pm and said he wanted to pick up JT's old floppy disks because Charles could read them on his new computer. He, Dina, and Charles stopped by right after my Chinese food had been delivered, so I offered them food and drinks. For the second time that day. As Dennis was leaving he mentioned going back to read the disks. I asked what about getting the ID's and the letter? He said he didn't have time for that he had other things he needed to do for Charles. So here again, I waited up hours the night before with a no show from Dennis, paid for lunch for him, Dina and I, wasted most of my day going to pawn shops and storage sheds when I could have been doing much needed homework, and fed them dinner. Dennis acted as if I was way out there when I told him he wasn't keeping his word again, but just wasting my time. He started to say things like, "I never promised you anything" "why do you want to see the ID's so bad now" "are you working for the other side"? I lost it, yes I did. I told him that I had had it, and that I wanted nothing to do with someone who didn't keep their word, and in my eyes used people for what they had and gave nothing in return. I told him to take all of JT's belongings and to leave me alone. This is just one of many times Dennis had done something like this. I couldn't even tell you how many things Dennis has failed to pay me back for.



This happened well over a month ago, and then about 2 weeks ago he starts a thread about how I supposedly have aliases that I post under. Funny thing is, he won't answer anyone including me about these supposed aliases that do not exist, and what I have done to him. Even after I quit him, I did not respond ill about him or go blasting what a jerk he was.



Through conversations with TerryB, TerryB was able to make Dennis realize that his posting nonsense was detrimental to his own case. As I said, "Dennis has single handed burned every bridge, and kept this case right where it is." That what you get when you don't tell the truth and you withhold evidence.



The next thing I know Dennis has removed the thread, and I received an email from him in tandem with TerryB about the thread being removed. See below for email.



Keep in mind at this point by text message Dennis had agreed to stop contacting me, so I was surprised to receive this email, but not surprised about it's contents.





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Today at 01:30 PM Reply with quote #3

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From: Dennis Kaufman
To: Nanette Barto
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:46 PM
Subject: Things


You leave a message on Catseye's phone claiming you just want more proof so you can keep going? Well don't you trust your own work? If you did you have all the proof you need. The last f-----g thing I need is you flipping out on me cause you didn't get your way! I cannot believe some of the things I found out about you, wtf?!!! You claim to be concerned about bringing closier to the victims families, what a f-----g joke!!! It is up to you to do what is right at this point, as your choices today are the outcome of tommorow... D.K.




EVIDENTALLY MY MESSAGE BOARD WON'T EXCEPT THE LIKES OF DK'S LANGUAGE, SO I WILL HAVE TO REDACT THE WORDS TO GET IT TO POST!!!
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From: Nanette <nanette@handwritingdocumentexamination.com>
To: Dennis Kaufman <dennisk95610@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: Things


First, I find it interesting that you responded yet again after telling me by text that it was your last response. I do not have the time or energy for bullshit childish games....
Second you wrote,
You leave a message on Catseye's phone claiming you just want more proof so you can keep going? Well don't you trust your own work?
I do trust my own work, it is you that I have trust issues with!
Third you wrote,
The last f-----g thing I need is you flipping out on me cause you didn't get your way!
It is not about my way, it has always been about your way. You do not care what hour you keep me up til, you do not care about how much time I have spent waiting on you, you do not care that you have not put me first in any situation, unlike I have done for you. From going to catseye's to get her computer and paying for gas you promised ot pay me back, to going to LA on a moments notice, to telling me you are going to do something that you fail to do like addressing Tim Miller and the bullshit they pulled on me.
Fourth you wrote,
I cannot believe some of the things I found out about you, wtf?!!!
I at least tried to confront you about what they said in their presence, and you told me to f--- off rather than tell me they were wrong. At least I gave you the dignity of asking you whether it was true or not, unlike the dignity you are not showing me by blasting me on your message board over some b---s--- I can't even defend because you banned me from doing so. I don't know what you are thinking or who you are listening to, but this childish b---s--- game of "things" isn't helping me or you out by any means. And, If you want an answer to something you have to tell the person what it is you are questioning in order for them to respond. Again, I do not have the time or energy for guessing games, and I don't have to guess because I know I haven't done anything against you or this case.
Fifth thing you said,
You claim to be concerned about bringing closier to the victims families, what a f-----g joke!!!
I did want to bring closure to the families, but not at the cost of mine. I won't throw away everything I have fighting for someone who doesn't give me the same consideration without the down right truth about anything and everything. You have the power to change my mind any time you wish....
Sixth and final statement,
It is up to you to do what is right at this point, as your choices today are the outcome of tommorow... D.K.
It is and has always been up to you to do what is right in this case. I made my point very clear as to what it takes to make me go round. Loyalty, honesty, your word as bond, do what you say, and be who you are going to be. I do not ask for much, and in fact I haven't asked for a lot from you, but the one time I do, you have the nerve to tell me after all I have done, that I am working for the other side. The ball is in your court, and as always I am waiting on you....
I would be happy to continue my due diligence, but there is no requirement for me to do so. All I ask for is some vindication in my hard work. That does not mean I do not believe in my work because you know I do, it only means that I am expecting things from you as well.

Have a Positive and Inspirational Day!
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2/21/2012 10:20 am ----This is the response from Dennis.



Just as I thought you have a serious f-----g drug problem! You waste my time going to bum f--- egypt looking for a sleeping bag, that was a big joke! F--- off you f-----g frootloop I will be letting the colleges know all about you! You won't be talking anymore about this case, as you have done more harm with your drug induced ramblings. If you want to f--- around with me I will be putting some videos of you doing dope on you tube! Don't bothing responding to me you f-----g lame!!! Why don't you go lie to Richard somemore about how we were f-----g! In your f-----g dreams I wouldn't f--- you if you the last person on earth.

THIS IS FOLLOWED BY DENNIS PUTTING BACK UP THE "NANETTE BARTO" THREAD AT 1:36PM ON 2/21/2012 BECAUSE I SENT A RESPONSE ON MY BLACKBERRY TO HIM THAT SAID I WOULD GLORIFY HIM WITH A RESPONSE, BUT I WOULDN'T TOUCH HIM WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND'S VAGINA, AND I WOULD BE FORWARDING HIS EMAIL TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES. HE THOUGHT HE WOULD LIE TO THEM FIRST, BUT EITHER WAY THEY ARE IN POSSESSION OF IT NOW!


HE IS EITHER ON DRUGS HIMSELF OR THE RESIDUAL AFTER EFFECTS HAS CAUSED HIM TO BE DELUSIONAL. EITHER WAY, BY THE LOOKS OF HIS MESSAGE HE HAS LOST IT, NOT ME. SO, IMAGINE MY SURPRISE WHEN THE CITRUS HEIGHTS POLICE SHOWED UP AT MY DOOR SAYING THE SAME NONSENSE THAT DENNIS HAD JUST EMAILED ME. ALL I HAD TO DO WAS SHOW THEM THE EMAIL MESSAGE AND THEY COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS GOING ON. THEY DISMISSED THE REPORT AS FRAUDULENT AND TOLD ME TO FILE A RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST HIM, AND THE FACT THAT HE USED THE INTERNET TO MAKE THREATS IT WAS A FEDERAL VIOLATION OF THE LAW AS WELL.

THE NERVE OF HIM TO EVEN BUILD UP IN HIS MIND THAT I WOULD EVER SEE HIM IN A ROMANTIC LIGHT, LET ALONE TELL MY BOYFRIEND THAT HE AND I EVER HAD ANYTHING GOING. IT JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW BIG OF A LIAR HE ACTUALLY IS, SELF-ABSORBED, AND JUST PLAIN WRONG. AS FOR THE ALLEGATIONS OF DRUG USE, HE MUST BE THINKING ABOUT HAVING VIDEOS OF ONE OF HIS GIRLFRIENDS BECAUSE I DO NOT DO DOPE, NOR WILL I EVER....
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I will respond to this, Nanette keeps acting like I owe her for all her many hours of work. All I ever asked her to do was look at the writing, that's it!

She says that she has what she needs from JT's belongings and she don't need me for what she is doing next. This shows she has a hidden agenda, but she doesn't realize that all that material that she has taken from me is copyrighted.

She claims that I lied to her because I refused to bring over more evidence pertaining to the case, she demanded this of me.

Nanette has been making deals with overseas film production companies behind my back, this is probably how she bought her new house.

I never made a police report with anyone, were did you come up with this lie Nanette?

I thought you have decided to move on from this case? Looks like it is still a very big part of your life. You have taken my years of work and have tried to take credit for it. Your actions make me sick! Keep your word for once and move on like you claim to have done...
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I think that when she went ahead with the press conference against your wishes marked the point where she became too invested in this and made it all about her.
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