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sixtieschick

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I read back here and see Dennis said Tim Miller received a letter when he was out in CA. I missed that before. What did the letter Mr. Miller got out there say? Did the letter writer sign the letter or give some name or was the letter anonymous? Did the writer explain how they knew Mr. Miller was in CA and where to send the letter to him in CA? Unless Mr. Miller's visit was highly publicized I don't see how anyone would know to send him a letter to CA. Most people would send letters to him addressed to his search company in Texas.
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Sixtieschick,

This is still a little muddy but what I believe Dennis is stating is that someone presumably sent Nanette a letter in 2010 that was different than the 2005 letter. Nanette confirmed this new letter to be Jack's writing and its existence influenced Tim Miller to make the trip to CA. Dennis has now determined that the 2010 letter was forged by Nanette as a ploy to get Tim's attention.

I have to credit Dennis for being upfront with this new revelation because the implications can negatively impact many areas. While everyone can determine for themselves how this affects her handwriting match, the integrity of Nanette Barto has now been compromised. This means that every statement and any information that has come from her is questionable. I can understand why she hasn't been able to sleep because her deceit has been exposed.
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How can we be sure that Nanette actually forged the letter? The writing style reminds me of catseyes re-written 340 cypher and some of her other re-written works that emphasize the Cherokee syllable kick she has been on.
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It's interesting because the last falling out Dennis and Nanette had concerned Timm Miller and Steph Watts. Nanette had apparently accused Dennis of trying to sell them evidence. The time previous to that was when Nanette went ahead with a press conference to announce the case solved against Dennis' wishes. He rightfully thought the death of Michael Jackson would detract from the announcement in the news cycle. She really has seemed to have her own agenda throughout this. Given her behaviour it wouldn't shock me to find out she fabricated evidence and outright lied to advance her career. She certainly has come across like an opportunist throughout this whole investigation.
sixtieschick

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Does anyone have a copy of the hand written letter sent to Nanette in early 2010?

Let me see if am better understanding everything. Here's what I think is the sequence of events. First, Nanette recieves a handwritten letter that repeats some of the 2005 Tim Miller letter. Then, Nanette or Dennis inform Mr. Miller and he and the Steph Watts person fly to CA to meet with Dennis and Nanette and examine this letter Nanette received. Then while Mr. Miller is in CA he receives a new different letter. Is that what happened?
jbradfield66

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I think tht is generally correct although I'm not clear on the new letter you are referring to. As well, there was the whole business with nanette accusing dennis of trying to sell evidence and the subsequent falling out. I believe nanette was banned for a period and harshly rebuked by dennis. He accused of her being a liar, an opportunist and mentally unstable. Fair criticisms in my opinion.
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Looked back on the board a little bit (it's a challenge trying to find info here epsecially when you have to sift through catseyes ramblings) and found this:

Nanette was, at one point, communicating with someone named Dave or David about Tim Miller. She says that he is the one that first brought the possibility of Jack being involved in the I45 case to her attention.
And from this post, it sounds like HE is the one she says gave her the letter:

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I will not tolerate out right lies or BS, especially from you. You show up, drop off a letter, and dissappear. Once you hear we have talked to Tim, in fact months after, you show up saying you are not getting credit. Well guess what buddy, I gave them your name, your email, and your IP. Last I heard they were going to obtain a subpoena to figure out where this letter you support comes from. So, I definitely gave credit where credit is due.


http://www.denniskaufman.websitetoolbox.com/post/05-TIM-MILLER-EQUISEARCH-LETTERS-amp-OTHERS-W-ATOMIC-ENERGY-EXPERT-TARRANCE-CLUES-4912105?trail=90

That was post #76, and she mentions in Post #79 that she has all of this guys e-mails to her, as well.

This was back in October 2010.

So, I searched for posts by a "Dave" and found this:
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08/15/10 at 09:17 PM #51
I came here with the best intentions to help victoms & their familys. I now notice that some of my PM's, posts & threads are gone. Can someone please clue People in as to how you all found out about Tim Miller and the I-45 killings & the letters? Also why is it that my posts show 11 and only 7 show up also 0 threads started when you know well and good you all told me to start a thread on it because of what I found, then you rip it down and I get this bogus pm from cats eye that she was already looking into it, oh and those pm's are gone too.. BTW, any and all threads emails and PM's were backed up and stored on my computer. Are some out for money and fame or do you do this for the right reasons?

Please Help Me Understand this board and its uncommon moves...


Post # 51
http://www.denniskaufman.websitetoolbox.com/post/A-message-to-people-on-other-message-boards!-4587874?trail=60

Not sure what to make of this but it seemed relevant to the current discussion. Not sure who David, or Dave is. I'm sure others can also find relevant posts.
sixtieschick

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So Dave is the person who gave or sent Nanette the hand written 2010 Tim Miller letter? If so maybe someone was trying to set up Dennis and Nanette? Dennis, what makes you now think Dave did not send or give Nanette the letter?
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I'm not making any assumptions, just trying to sift through the previous posts to make sense of this. Ill be honest, I have no doubt Nanette is up to something. I just want to be sure. I don't like to cast aspersions without evidence. There are some relevant posts here as well.

http://www.denniskaufman.websitetoolbox.com/post/An-Open-Letter-From-Professor-D-3624652?trail=45

Dave makes several posts in this thread. The post where he links to the letter was made in February 2010; Tim Miller went to CA in early March 2010.
sixtieschick

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In that thread on the Open Letter Dave is talking about the 2005 letter, not the 2010 one that Nanette said Dave gave or sent her. From what I have been able to figure out Nanette did not get the 2010 letter until after Dave made these posts in February 2010.

I will sign out now and try not to post until Dennis comes back and explains things more fully. Right now we are speculating and I need to know more before I can be sure I understand what took place with the letters, the visit and all that.
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We tried to contact Dave and were unsuccessful. Everything that Nanette has done should be questioned because she is not trustworthy. I say this even though it goes against my case, but I refuse to condone this type of fraudulent activity. She has made her own bed, now she can lay in it! I know you are reading this Nanette and you need to quit calling us and leaving insane messages, no one wants to talk to you!
sixtieschick

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This is all so upsetting. What was it that happened recently that led you to the conclusion that Nanette forged the letter Dennis? The whole situation happened 2 years ago and up until now you never gave any indication that you suspected Nanette of writing the letter herself.

And what did you mean when you said she had been posting under aliases?

People have been trying for years to discredit you and Nanette. Nanette herself posted after the Miller visit that she thought maybe the whole situation was staged by others to try and drive you and Nanette apart. Is it possible that some people are at work again feeding you false information?

Why would Nanette want to get Tim Miller to come out to CA and why would she want it so badly that she would forge a letter to make sure it happened?

I just don't understand.
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I agree with everything sixtieschick posted.
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Who is dan miller
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Found out...
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