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DiamondD

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The LOW BROW (one of the many names he likes to call people) is up to his onld tricks again. Read PROOF GAIKOWSKI IS THE ZODIAC !!! thread. Another person banned from his site for disagreeing with his all mighty. Then he whines about death threats, what a moron...
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This is my first post here and I'm glad I found this site. It appears that the folks here actually have some intelligent
thoughts about this case and are actually able to express opinions
freely...as it should be. After escaping the 'Cult of the VBOTS' it's nice to see other views. I can't believe how the
sheep over there follow this guy to slaughter...or maybe I can.
His 'my way or the highway' mentality is the most ridiculous thing I've seen. Truth is he doesn't want this case solved! If it was, we could all visit his new site "DoyouWantFrieswithThat?.com" or maybe OJisInnocent.com where we will track down the real killer of Nicole and Ron.
"GYKE ON" Voigt...LOSER.
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Well said sir and welcome aboard!
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I now am of the opinion that the media should be notified that TV's message board is no longer a free public forum, it has become a members only board. My question is, for all the public domain information TV has on his site, how can it be constitutional of TV to now hide all that information behind a pay per view / members only web site? Is there anyone with any clout anywhere that can have this wrong corrected?
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Im not sure exactly what you are saying DiamondD...? I just went to that site and had complete access to all the usual information and message board. I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THE TV SITE btw.
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OH! I see now DiamondD, The message board is pay-per-view. Who cares anyway, WE HAVE THIS SITE!!! Thanks to Dennis and co.
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Diamond, I told you all along, "It's all about the cash" for TV. He did a great job of gathering info to one central location, but every time you turn around, he is asking for cash, trying to sell something like the famous "Paul Stein beer stein" or his cheesy DVD. This is a place to discuss the case. The guys and gals on this board are all cool cats!
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Tom Voigt has made it mandatory that you make a donation to activate an account to post on his message board, this is a joke! JCloser you are correct, Tom is in it for the money.

Tom Voigt, you need to get off your fat ass and get a job!
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You are so right about the people on this site JC! FOR REAL DOUGH!
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isn't it FOR REAL DOG, not FOR REAL DOUGH... ?
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I now am of the opinion that the media should be notified that TV's message board is no longer a free public forum, it has become a members only board. My question is, for all the public domain information TV has on his site, how can it be constitutional of TV to now hide all that information behind a pay per view / members only web site? Is there anyone with any clout anywhere that can have this wrong corrected?


You forget that our laws govern the public domain. Websites, like this one, are privately owned. I run my own website and I can ban/boot whoever I see fit. Can I do that on my sidewalk? No, that's public domain. All of the info posted is available through the FOIA, the only thing not available to non subscribers is the message boards.Have this wrong corrected? How is it a wrong?

I am his friend yes, but first and foremost I want the Zodiac case solved. I have no bias towards any suspect, and I openly state I am not sold on his POI. That is what brings me here as well, I wanted to hear opposing views and all suspect theories.

But if you are seriously thinking you have a constitutional right to view or post on a privately owned website you are mistaken. I can be banned or blocked from posting here, it would not violate my rights legally.

I'm here to see all sides of the case. That is all. I also found the hood recovered to be odd looking from what was described by Hartnell, so I wanted to see for myself. Thats what free thinkers do.

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Not here to disagree or stir up anything...I'm just looking for info since I saw the news report and the hood looked odd to me.
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I understand the legal aspect of webmasters being able to boot / ban whoever they want, however public outcry should prevent censorship of ideas and theories. My experience was that I was banned because I had ideas and theories that differed from the webmaster, this is not a just reason to ban and it is a form of censorship, my ideas where censored, that is unconstitutional in the free world.
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I understand the legal aspect of webmasters being able to boot / ban whoever they want, however public outcry should prevent censorship of ideas and theories. My experience was that I was banned because I had ideas and theories that differed from the webmaster, this is not a just reason to ban and it is a form of censorship, my ideas where censored, that is unconstitutional in the free world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship

Again, censorship relies of freedom of speech as outlined in the first amendment. You were stopped from continuing to post on a website, not stopped from contacting the public and releasing your ideas.You may still post on your site, stand in a city square, and confront public officials. No laws were broken.Since it's private domain, your rights were not tread upon.Are you not typing here? Yes, so you still have free speech on your side AND in public.
Is it always a good reason to ban...dissent? Hell no. Dissenting opinions often provoke discussion and debate that bears fruit. I agree with bans when anyone is abusive or posting in a rude way that is distracting.
Unconstitutional in the free world? Again, no. The "free world' consists of many nations with differing laws, the constitution covers you in U.S states and territories, and if you are detained overseas. Free speech applies separately.
Thank you for the discussion!

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I would be able to formulate a more concise/concrete rebuttal but I'm not a lawyer, so at this point we will agree to disagree. Thank you for the discussion

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