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Oh my f*&%ing god!


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No, Link, my expletive wasn't in response to your post. It was in response to seeing those photographs and knowing that is the actual murder weapon!
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Ok, thank you Joanne. If I am wrong please correct me but I do not see a broken blade, I only see a bent blade, The measurements for the blade fits the handle IMO. BTW, I mean NO disrespect to the family or to anyone here with my comments.
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No offense taken, Link. The tip of the knife is gone. Look at the first picture. The blade isn't pointy.
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If that knife was used in any of the Zodiac attacks, there will be blood DNA on it. Let's wait and see what the report says.


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WOULD there be DNA on it... even from all those years ago? The knife's "innards" look pretty rusty. I'm not that familiar with how long DNA can be preserved on an object... anybody care to offer some insight into this question?

Also, I'm wondering about the "confession letter" that was sent by Bates' killer. The killer claims that the tip of the knife broke off during the attack. Now, all these years later, Dennis has found a knife in a metal lockbox that Jack owned -- the size of the blade matches Cheri Jo's wounds, and the tip is broken off! What are the odds? And yet there was no knife tip found at the time of Cheri Jo's autopsy. Was the confession letter received prior to the autopsy done? If the letter was received AFTER the autopsy (and I'm not sure of the chronology here), and the medical examiner did not KNOW to look for a knife tip, would it have been possible for him to overlook it?

Finally, JCloser tells us that a recreation of the crime took place who weeks after the murder, and that a certain stocky white man WITH A BEARD was conspicuously absent. I looked on Dennis' website but I don't see ANY pictures of Jack with a beard. To your knowledge, Dennis, DID Jack ever have a beard?
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Here is a photo from 1979 of Jack with a beard. We moved to Minnesota in 1976, then moved to Austin Texas in 1977,and this photo was taken just after we moved back to California in Jan, 1979.

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So Jack DID wear a beard from time to time!
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Jack did wear a beard from time to time....I will see if I can found some older photo's of Jack with a beard.
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Dennis, do you have any photos of Jack's brother who lived in Riverside?
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I do have some photo's of Jack's brother, I will post some in the next couple of days.
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Thanks Dennis, that would be great!
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Dennis,
As JCLOSER mentioned earlier, it is often thought that Cheri Jo knew her attacker. Do you have any reason to believe that either Jack, or perhaps even his brother knew Cheri Jo or would have had reason to make her acquaintance at all?
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Scarlett I do not have any reason to believe that Jack or his brother knew Cheri Bates. I believe the police thought that she knew her killer because of references made in the confession letter.


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I did a little online research about Imperial knives and found the website of Michael Yoh, of Shippensburg (Pennsylvania) University: http://webspace.ship.edu/mbyoh/imperial.html. Mr. Yoh is an avid knife collector, specializing in Imperial knives. I sent him the photos of the knife found in Jack's metal lockbox, here is what he wrote to me:

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JoAnne,

This is an old shell-handled Imperial, probably from the 50's. Because it has hollow shell handles, rather than solid bolsters, and because the handles are in poor condition, there is little value to the knife. These are usually found in the $2.00 box at shows. If it was a family piece, there would be sentimental value, but little else. My father had a "Kingston" pocketknife, he carried during the war. Maybe worth $20.00, but to me, priceless.

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Apparently Mr. Yoh thought I was looking for an appraisal of the knife, and that's why he included the information about its value. What I think is interesting is that Mr. Yoh dated it as being from the 50's, which means that Jack's knife cannot be excluded from the Bates' killing on the basis of its date of manufacture.

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