dennislkaufman
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dcheryl83
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Interesting that the article mentions items for DNA testing, but nothing about results.
Profiler
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The photos show mutilation and sexual assualt. This was not Z's mode of operation.
However, he could have changed his ways, got more confident, and became much more brutal (if you can) with his murders.
I hope some family/friend can recognize that tattoo and reveal the identity of the victim.
Interesting read.
VinDecatur
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Wow. Creepy. I wish we had a clear look at some of those photos as it is hard to decipher them when presented in a indirect, pan & scan fashion, though there's little question about what's going on in the "tattoo" photo.
Profiler, in response to your statement regarding Z's M.O., be careful about writing Jack off because these photos show a different methodology than our four, well documented Z attacks. In addition to these photos appearing to be much more recent than our "classic four", Z showed us an evolving M.O. all along - from chasing a couple out of a car and gunning them down to donning a hood and stabbing them to death. Ultimate control and power - the golden calves for sociopaths - and like any addiction the need for more powerful stimulation increases over time. Shooting a woman to death for sexual gratification can certainly evolve into the very horrors evident in these photos.
Anyhow, once again I feel that Dennis has done great work and I look forward to the further unraveling of this mystery. It seems folks love to bash him and hold him to unrealistic expectation while he continues to be the only man out there providing anything substantial be it physical items or documented timelines. I'm miffed by the mountain of ALA theorists who continue to disregard factual evidence.
Just for the record, I find the Opord report to be a convoluted mess of freak logic rife with assumption and an ill-conceived scientific method.
jimmy54
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One complicating factor is the Domingos murder, and whether it was a Zodiac crime. I believe the killer had mutilated the breast/s of Edwards, which could be considered unusual in terms of MO, if it was indeed Zodiac.
catseye
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Thanks, finally joined the MB.... anyway, was these photos shown recently on amw.com or some other crime show? They look vaguely familiar. Authorities were asking for people to come forward to ID the tattoo man? Anyway, thanks Dennis et al for all your hard work.
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margie11
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Hey everyone!! This is so incredible! It is horrifying to think that all these years Jack (or anyone) had pictures of this nature. I am glad Dennis that they were not all handed over to one source at the same time. No telling what may have happened to them if you had given them all to the FBI.
A friend just told me that CNN aired something showing that a suspect had been named in the west side rapist cases based on dna and said that it had something to do with the Z...I could not find that info...only that the guy that did those rapes might be linked to other killings...it said nothing about Z. Has anyone heard about this??
Hope that everyone is well! WAY TO GO DENNIS!!!!!!!!!
JCloser
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Margie, are you kidding me? Did they say that the East Area Rapist might be tied to the Z killings? I mentioned him in a prior post a long time back. I believe he is the most prolific criminal in California history--although little known. He started in the Sacramento/Rancho Cordova area and then started to gravitate south eventually ending up in the Irvine area. He started out strictly as a rapist in the mid 70's and then through the years--as he gravitated southward--changed his MO to include murder. In 1978 I moved to Rancho Cordova on a street where he had hit at least 3 times.........it was pretty terrifying at the time to know that every little sound outside could be him. If I remember correctly, he was also described as being small in stature. This would really be wild if he was involved in some way. I believe I might, and I mean might have seen him on one occasion, but that is a story for another day.
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vtbassplyr
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Its the Westside Rapist, not EAR/ONS, and he hasnt been linked to the Zodiac case:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090430/ap_on_re_us/us_serial_slayings
mike_yukon
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Good lord, the lack of reading comprehension here is astounding. Margie types "west side," but JCloser sees "east area."
After I read a few of the posts here, I see spots when I close my eyes. Anyone else have such symptoms?
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JCloser
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Originally Posted by mike_yukon Good lord, the lack of reading comprehension here is astounding. Margie types "west side," but JCloser sees "east area."
After I read a few of the posts here, I see spots when I close my eyes. Anyone else have such symptoms?
Good god, where did all these dicks come from? Hey douche bag, the EAR has had many names, unfortunately or rather more fortunately for me, I don't have this case as the center of my entire life. I guess what I'm saying is that not all of us that have an interest in Z are as big of a loser as you appear to be. Get a life and while your at it.......get lost!
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mike_yukon
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"Jcloser" wrote:
"I don't have this case as the center of my entire life."
Ummm...so that is supposed to explain your lack of comprehension skills? WTF?
Look man, I've seen some of your other posts and threads. You are not bright.
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dennislkaufman
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JCloser, this guy is gone.
JCloser
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Originally Posted by mike_yukon "Jcloser" wrote:
"I don't have this case as the center of my entire life."
Ummm...so that is supposed to explain your lack of comprehension skills? WTF?
Look man, I've seen some of your other posts and threads. You are not bright.
No the comment speaks for itself:
You are a pathetic criminal, a convicted stalker. Now you are giving me the creeps by stalking me. You are obsessed with the Closer. My friends tell me you write about me on other boards, why I even heard that you wrote a post on another site claiming to be the Closer. I understand where your need to stalk people--especially woman--comes from. You are a social reject and a zero with the ladies. Tom, some guys are starters, but late in the game with everything on the line they bring in the "stud" the "Closer".....you my pathetic criminal friend are no closer! I've always felt bad for guys like you. You spend all night and all your cash at the bar talking to some girl and then right before last call a Closer comes in, spends 5 minutes with the girl and then leaves with her.
Some guys are starters and some guys are closers! Hence I understand your sexual frustration, I really don't care about them, but I do understand the root of your loserness.
PS: Is your obsession with me the fact that you gave me Mr. X's name and now you've soiled your panties wondering if its true? Well it is ......now go and change your Depends you pathetic loser!
Dennis, great job on banning this loser. Funny how he can't seem to stay in his own play ground. I guess he realized that today he is about as relevant as Vanilla Ice!
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margie11
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Hey JCloser! That cracked me up when you called that guy a douche bag! He sure was!! Ok...back to the West side rapist thing that my friend was telling me about.....SHE IS A DOUCHE BAG TOO!!!!!!!!!! I just looked up the story about the guy - here is the article
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2406305.ece
I think that we can agree that he is more than likely NOT the Z!!!!!! She must have read the bottom of the article and thought that they connected DNA from this guys crimes to Z's.