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alphie

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gee.. I really wish i had a week of from work, wife and kids to look further into these things.... Anyway, at least I can enjoy your work (catseye, nanette) in the meantime ;0)
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Thanks, alphie. Hey, and you have been a big help, too (Riley Poole)!
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stephen

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1. Does anyone know if the postmark on this 86 letter is March or May?

2. Can DK or anyone else post the statement of Terry Pascoe from Cal DOJ authenticating this letter as from Zodiac?

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trustno1

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As I have said before, I am definitely no expert nor, even a novice, at comparing handwriting, so I do not understand how someone could use a percentage as a way to judge something like this. I would think that it is either a match or, it is not a match. A percentage of being a 'maybe' does not make sense.
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catseye

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NanetteB, sorry to hear such dark sided truthes regarding Pescoe and Cunningham but it's not too surprising given the last decade or so. WOW! What Dennis has been through and then the both of you trying to get some progress. Good to hear that there's some work being done on the letters, none-the-less. Why so much time has passed, it boggles the mind.
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Check and scan your PC, everybody. MySpace was hacked and they changed the language to Norwegian and I see that search engines are now "iffy", so I don't know if I'm passing a bug around or not. LOL! Norwegian! I had swedish friends, so, I sort of recognized it. Check your PCs!
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stephen

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Nanette

Do you or anyone know if the postmark date on this 1986 letter says 6 or 8 MARCH or MAY?

Thank you.

This is a close up of the postmark.

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stephen

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Nanette (or DK)

Can you ask Pascoe when the SF Chronicle got this 1986 letter?
stephen

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Nanette (or DK)

I guess my only suggestion to you would be if you could send a letter to Pascoe saying something like "Dear Mr. Pascoe, I understand we differ on the issue of the Zodiac handwriting compared to Jack Tarrance. Setting that aside, however, I wondered if you could please tell me WHEN the 1986 Zodiac letter we discussed was received by the SF Chronicle. It would help me and some other researchers (who do not think JT was likely Zodiac) in our efforts. Thank you very much"

Something like that!

I think he would respond, and it would clear up the mystery.

If you (or DK) don't want to do it, if you PM me his email or address I would send a similar message to him.

On the little we have of the postmark,I thought we see the top of an "M", thus I thought it was likely 6 March or 6 May. On December 11, 1985 a man named Hugh Scrutton was killed in Sacramento (near a freeway) by a bomb planted by Ted Kaczynski. And on May 4, 1986, a women named Janelle Lisa Cruz was killed by the Original Night Stalker. So I think this letter is very interesting, and it could be important to know WHEN it was sent.

Frustrating!
catseye

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stephen, this is not the place to go fishing for Pescoes contacts information. And, please, this is an MB for Jack Tarrance and it's Zodiac Killer related issues as they pertain to Jack Tarrance MB. Even though it strays from time to time to other suspects, an effort is made to get back on track and point out why the other suspects are not Zodiac Killer. TK is one of them and it seems to also be Original NS, too. You may get the boot, dude.
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stephen

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I just made a suggestion on a possible way to approach Pascoe. Just an idea, take it or leave it. I would like to solve this mystery.

Nanette has been very helpful and has sent me several PM's with what info she has on this letter. I appreciate that. Nanette thank you.

I also just mentioned that this letter is of particular interest to me because of murders in California that happened in the time period of this letter. The bomb murder pertains to Kaczynski because he was convicted of it. The murder of Janelle Lisa Cruz is unsolved.

If a brief mention of another suspect or another unsolved murder gets someone "the boot" here, whatever, then I don't wish to be here. It is possible for people who disagree on likely suspects to work together and try to help each other, as Nanette has done.

In any event thanks agains for the information, and Nanette and Dennis, please consider my suggestion, if you wrote a letter in that manner, or whatver you think best, I am almost certain you would get a response and we could clear up this mystery and advance the case. Isn't that the most important thing?
catseye

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Stephen, I can appreciate your wish to help solve Cruz and maybe link TK ....but this is not the board or site for that. I am the first person who would like to assist in any other unsolved murders, if I had a dime for every tip I sent for every idea I had on missing and murdered, I would be rich but again, this isn't the place for TK. So, please, take it to another site/mb.
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catseye

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NanetteB, since Jack was in 3 Arms of US Military starting from 1945 until 1950s and he didn't graduate High School but I know that the military is a stickler for making sure those enlisted do graduate or get their GED cramming for it while doing other military duties, do you think it's possible that since Jack excelled in Math, that he's a Math Thesis guy?

edited 8:22 GMT There's more to this post, I moved it to ABCs thread as this subject of TK and excluding him for millionth time from being Zodiac doesn't belong here.

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catseye

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NanetteB, when I wrote my response about what a possible cipher solve that Segal was referring to in missing 18 of the 1st 3, I was basically eluding to that Jack went into the Military without being a High School Grad, that in WWII, esp, by 1945, in an effort to win the war there was the Bright Minds to Win the War military program or ASTP and in screening, if they discovered you had a above average IQ, then found you had particular aptitudes, you did what Military told you to do and first crammed for your diploma. So, all that said, if Jack was good at math, which he is, theoretically he might have had a military version of a Math Thesis done as he could have got a military version of a degree, guestimating it was in Military Engineering. How else did he get into GE Atomic Energy plant and weren't there some Engineering symbols there that Z used? But that's all just theory as Military files are missing. So, maybe, if there's is a Segal solve that says Math Thesis Winner Michigan and I believe there's some ideas that Jack was in Michigan 1940s, that it could actually be refering to JWT. But I've never seen segals solve, so, where does he get this from? Don't answer Segal or TK as Z fans.....TK isn't not Zodiac! Anyway, will be rechecking these old letters you posted, NanetteB.
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catseye

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NanetteB, I believe it's Hautz not Faust...anyway, when re-checking old info and search engines, I come up with this:

Einstein Archives Online - Details for [32 - 53.00]Author, Hautz, B. Receiver, Einstein, Albert. Title. First Line. Contents. Language. Location. Descriptive Code, ALS help. From Place, GROSSE POINTE, MICH ...

It's someone named B. Hautz, has to do with an Autographed Signed Letter from Einstein in 1946. Judging from the archives results, it was probably from Einstein in Michigan to Hautz in Princeton, NJ. How ironic that Einstein was in the Bright Minds to Win The War program as a Civilian Mathematician (helped with the bomb) and the rumors of Michigan Math Thesis Winner in Segals missing 18 solve. Go Figure! (no math pun intended)

Oh, and I ironically seem to hamper on the fact that I knew someone who was in the ASTP Dr. Budai, who in months got the equivalant to a Medical Degree in the military, then was a Army Medic, as he became a Cardiologist Specialist in San Francisco after the war. I had heart problems as a kid, dated his son a bit who also had a high IQ. See my MySpace, but funny how these things come around full circle.

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