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yogaman1919

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seems when i try to click the attachment i get a message saying: error, bandwidth limit exceeded.
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yogaman1919

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Originally Posted by DiamondD
I have played around with a few psych make-ups for Zodiac, I may post something in the future regarding.

i'd be rather interested in reading those if you should ever decided to post them. im rather fasinated by psychology.


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I can't see the letter your talking about in this thread but I'm pretty sure I saw it someplace else around here.

My thoughts are, its hard to tell.

I see a heavier script than other letters. It also looks like whoever wrote it crossed out words that were written differently than same words written after them. Possibly to better disguise their writing? When you see how little JT disguised his writing in other letters, this doesn't make a lot of sense. Was he simply trying to do a better job of it now?

It also looks like the full loop on the letters with tails was an after thought and added to alter their penmanship. Especially since it doesn't appear to have been done to the words that are crossed out.

He also isn't dotting his i's the same way he did in other letters. The dot is over the i, not the letter next to it.

The heavier script could be explained easily enough by changes in writing instrument or physical condition. He may have developed arthritis or had some form of injury when he wrote it.

It could also be somebody slowly and carefully writing a forgery.

Its also a little out of the ordinary that it seems to be a cut and paste from parts of other known letters. This could have been intentional or some other weirdo seeking attention.

It would be interesting to see what sweetcheeks thinks.
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For some reason I canot see the letter Dennis posted. It says "bandwidth exceeded"?? Any other way to post the pics of this letter?

Question; from reading all your comments about this letter, the first thing that I thought about was that IF this were written in 1986, it would be a much older Zodiac writing it now, therefore it could have more inconsistancies than prior letters because age seems to have a pretty large impact on hand writing from what I have experienced over my life, such as my Moms, sisters, aunts, etc. There handwriting all seems to be less stable, if I can use that term. Just food for thought.
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Letter:
http://thezodiackiller.digitalzones.com/K30.jpg

Envelope:
http://thezodiackiller.digitalzones.com/K32.jpg

Take a look at this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Night_Stalker
Too much seems different though. Or could the behavior simply be evolving? DT was in Vietnam between the Z case and this case, he could have easily developed a taste for rape and bludgeoning over there. If JT was Phantom, he already had a history of rape. Changing from parks to neighborhoods is much riskier too, but at the same time the greater risk involved, the greater thrill in doing and getting away with it. Z already seemed to have major ego issues. "Crack proof". Yikes!

June 1976 is also the same time the family moved to MN, did DT go along or stay in CA? Where was he, and where was his mother Doris living during this time?

?1974/1975?, DT returns from Vietnam

June 1976, JT and family move to MN, ???DT stays behind in CA???

June 1976 - July 1979, East Area Rapist (DT?) is active in Sacramento area

April 2 1977 - EAR's method of operation changes to couples (like PK & Z)

?1977/1978?, JT moves back to CA

1979 - 1986, ONS is active in SoCal.

1986, Z feels some overwhelming need to be a braggart and sends another letter.

2001 - Advancements in DNA detection determines EAR and ONS are linked to the same person. Making him the most "prolific serial offender" in California history.

This also could explain why Doris acted so weird when DK saw her. Even though JT is dead, DT her son, is still alive. She knew what was going on. She probably even saw DT's bloody clothes once or twice.

Another possibility is Danny and Doris realized DK was on to something and the invitation to tell him "something about Jack" in person, was a ploy to get him down there and get rid of him. When DK showed up with another person, this plan fell apart.

Even if they already compared the partial Z DNA to the DNA evidence from this case, the Z DNA they had was from DR. They never had a DNA sample from DT, so... Remember, "open investigation".
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This letter was authenticated be Terrence Pascoe, Nanette also believes it to be authentic.
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Tamoose53, you took the words right out of my mouth. The person I care for is elderly and now "can't hear the remote", has trouble writing. They have been using a remote for 40 years but age has made comprehension & writing difficult. Anyway, age could have played a factor. Thanks, BARman for the letter/envelope links. Dennis you are a great poker player by keeping this stuff out of the public for as long as you have. I am glad to be here to see just what more that you, FBI, Justice Dept, et al in those circles have up their sleeves, too.
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BARman

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Dennis,

I'm not doubting anything at this point. If NB thinks it's authentic, I'm sold.

Something I noticed that seems interesting in the 1986 letter is the "Na" abbreviation for Nevada, when Nevada is actually abbreviated "NV".

Is there any writing from JT where he uses the "Na" abbreviation?

Another thing that came to mind. The tone of the 1986 letter almost seems as if Z is parodying himself. JT could have 'passed the torch' to DT by this point but still wrote the Z letter 'for old times sake'.

Something like this would have been confusing to figure out without being aware of the relationship between the two.

This also makes sense why JT clammed up, he was ready to confess to PK and Z, but realized once those connections were made the rest (EAR and ONS) might have been found out too and his son DT would be caught.
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Alright? I was skimming through the old posts, re-discovered this one. I think it's an authentic Zodiac Letter/JT because of the Beta B's and the capital San. Hey, I got the Greek Alphabet on my mind! Zodiac and JT mixed the two alphabets! Just bringing it to the top!
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Good work on the Greek alphabet. I have been through that as well as many other thoughts. Though you seem to hang on to something here. I have looked at many other alphabets, as the the ciphers contains many symbols similar to letters in some ancient alphabets. some symbols are similar to the Greek alphabet and I guess you´ll find the rest here:
http://noreah.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/ancient_alphabets.jpg

another Greek:
http://www.ancientscripts.com/greek.html

And look here at the letter "Y" it looks almost like the symbol on the Halloween card: http://www.ancientscripts.com/phoenician.html

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alphie! Yes! I believe you are right! I heard about the Phoenician symbol but never put too much thought in these symbols and mixed alphabets until now. I just thought Zodiac was a game player. Go back to the "Responses to Jack's Handwriting" thread and look at the scribe on Jack's 1945 Naval Academy photo and then look at the angular & squar-ish letters on a Chronicle Envelope and tell me if you see a reference to ancient Latin Alphabet that was used in Roman times! I think Jack knew his heritage and put these clues in some of the handwriting but also did this unconciously. In so many ways, Jack was telling the world all about himself!

Here's the link to that 1945 photo: [IMG][/IMG]

http://thezodiackiller.digitalzones.com/military%20photo%20jack%201945.jpg


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alphie, if you're still checking the MB, I did a quick internet search on Phoenicians and Greco-Roman era, there was a famed Phoenician Mathmetician (name escapes me now) during that time period. All that said, the surname Tarrance is from an ancient lineage Roman surname "Terence" and IMO, Jack new his heritage. With this in mind, I recall the "Patricia Faust" letter and Faust goes back to the same era of Terence.
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I'm still here, just with less amount of time. Keep up the good work, I read everyday. Just don't have much time these days to dig further... Hopefully I will soon :0)
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I?m not an expert, for me it looks like a Z letter but for some reason i don't buy this 100. I don't know why but it just doesn't match.
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Originally Posted by JCloser
PS: all of that above are my reasons for believing the letter to be true PLUS the fact that the writing looks dead on to me!


Nah, to me it looks fake, ESPECIALLY since the writer included the usual cross-outs, which was a Z trait. Too much information -- Sacramento and Nevada, where he never put such specific language. Everything in this letter has been written elsewhere by Z (such as the "blue meannies," and the like). Not original enough for Z. Plus, from the copy provided, looks like the writing did not have a natural flow.

I wish it was real, but it is uncharacteristic for Z's writing style and content.
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