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dennislkaufman

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Terrence Pascoe believes this is an authentic Zodiac letter that was mailed in 1986, what do you guys think?

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Wow Dennis that really looks like the real thing to me. I would imagine that anyone trying to "fake" a letter wouldn't have the balls to cross out words or squeeze a few in there. To me it implies some natural writing, and it really looks the part. One question, who is Terrence Pascoe?
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Nope, not Z authentic. It is too clear, concise, and includes too much. Z letters are incomplete, scattered, and inconclusive. In my opinion this is a good imitation. also look very carefully at the actual Zodiac symbol, this was the mans calling card, his identity his claim to fame, the one in this letter is sloppy and positioned wrong, the symbol is the other letters is precise.

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I think you are being pretty picky here Diamond. While it is most likely a fake, I think the symbol is pretty close. Zodiac's symbol was often sloppy as well and not prefect or deliberate. Here is the very first symbol I pulled up randomly




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pretty close!

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The first did not show. Here is the random actual symbol I pulled form Z. You make the comparison.


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Jc for some reason I can't see the pic you posted
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JC,

Terrence Pascoe worked for the DOJ in Sacramento Ca. for several years as a document examiner until he retired a few years ago. Mr. Pascoe believes this letter is authentic. The envelope is what looks authentic to me.
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I'd have to agree Dennis, it really looks like the real deal. Especially when you stop to think about the psychological complexities behind the blacked-out/misspelled words. I'd have to say, I'd vote for it as the real deal. Boy, there is a very strong Sacramento connection going on here. Good thing I didn't know all about this stuff when I was living there as a young boy. I'd have to change my shorts right about now!
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I think its a good forgery. Zodiac tended to abbreviate San Francisco as San Fran on all of his letters. He also never misspelled Chronicle in his letters. I would also expect to see "please rush to editor." Where did this letter come from? Ive never heard mention of it before.
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Yes, but Z deliberately misspelled words. There are words that he misspelled in some letter and later got them right in others. I don't think you can read too much into misspellings.
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Golden Eagle, the person who was kind enough to give me a copy of this letter ask me not to mention their name, so I have to respect their wishes. I can tell you it was a very credible source.
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Well, I think at this point I will still stick to my guns and say in my mind it does not appear authentic, yes I could very well be wrong but my reason still is because this letter contains too much. I believe it was Jc who touched on the psychological complexities, he is right about Z letters being that was, however this letter is very psychologically clear, which is definitely not the case with the authentic letters.
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I'm just saying if you are going to fake a letter, then one would take their time. I find it very unlikely that one would have the courage to fake a letter and include errors and the crossing out of words. These components point to it being natural in it's origination to me, or whoever wrote it needs a crane to lift their cajones!
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PS: all of that above are my reasons for believing the letter to be true PLUS the fact that the writing looks dead on to me!
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No offense JC but you post like you have this all figured out. For example, How do you know for a fact that Z misspelled words on purpose? Why would anyone, ever, send a letter YEARS after the fact and misspell words add words and or or cross out words? To my untrained eye the H's look forced, the lower case a's g's and the capitol N are not even close. The envelope looks pretty good though, for a fake.

Unless of course the letter was actually written in the 60's or 70's and only mailed in 86... BTW JC I DO NOT BLUFF IN POKER! or do i...?

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