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sixtieschick

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TerryB, why would you think some ISP's filter out Kaufman links? I don't understand. Can links be filtered out? If so, how would the ISP do that? And why would an ISP even care about the Zodiac case and decide to filter out Kaufman ones?
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First of all please understand that this would be something the ISP operators and staff would be unaware of, the same goes for search engines. Search engines or homepages etc steer people where they want them to go first typically based on the commercial aspects of the sites they link to the people using them, it's "pay to play" so to speak. They do steer people based on the profile they have developed on the customers as well. Some people won't use Google or Yahoo for instance because they don't like being herded around by the nose, they'll use search engines that they feel are more open. I use the term "search engines" somewhat loosely because there much more to it than we need to go into.

Obviously a perfect web search engine would list ALL sites alphanumerically however as you can imagine that might not be practical either.

You can sample what I'm saying by going around to different locations and see what kind of choices other web customers are provided, will they get 10 links to opposition sites calling Dennis and Nanette less than flattering names before they give the realzodiackiller.com link?

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The ISP businesses have banks and banks of servers which are high powered computers similar to the home PC, there operation can be scripted just like your home PC can.

Somebody's worried about themselves being linked to Jack Tarrance because they spend a lot of time and money stifling the case.

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Thanks for explaining that to me, TerryB, but it hardly sounds like some conscious conspiracy to keep people from reading Dennis's site and discovering the facts of the Zodiac case.
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I've gone to some friends computers to try to get the realzodiackiller.com site and gotten thoroughly sidetracked, I got everything else but what I was looking for, only through repeated query did I get the site, it seems fishy to me.

I agree with your questions regarding catseye, she hasn't clarified what she means by REAL symbols nor did, does or can she.

Her ABC's of solved puzzles etc thread started out pretty good but again it got to be too fatiguing to read, I plan to post next on that thread because I wanna point something out, it's not something that's gonna pick on catseye, just an observation about a Jack Tarrance letter that ties to the JBR ransom letter in terms of "fanciful letters".

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These real cipher symbols have lead to areas that say Zodiac wasn't a serial killer. It was the newspapers and the US Government laws that added the word killer. My apologies to Tarrance family for going along with what USA legal system and publications stated about what they thought ZK was. Yes, Jack was a killer but so are those who believe in a cause like wars, protecting lands. So, as far as laws go, like countries, like sovereign nations, it depends on what the laws say that determine what someone like Jack did. To our USA legal system, he may be a murderer but to other legal systems, cultures, he may not and may be considered an avenger, a soldier, a family man. When all is said and done, everybody will be right: He was a murderer, an avenger, a family man, a soldier, not a serial killer. He was JW Tarrance, Jr whom the USA government said his name was John Walker Tarrance, Jr and he named himself JACK.

To those trolls that are here: you may think you are able to bury the threads but you can't bury the truth that is in the Zodiac/Tarrance communications. And I have been asked to hold back on publishing what I got, so, I'm tying up the knots that tell the truth about Jack, every day and hope that were not being stalled by a two-faced government. He was always the Black Dahlia (Flower NATIVE TO MEXICO) Avenger. So, for once, I agree with you trolls: OUR 20th & 21st C USA GOVT SUCKS and WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER BY WORKING WITH PEOPLE, TREATING WHO WERE HERE FIRST WITH RESPECT, NOT IGNORING THEM! But Kaufman, Barto & I, Charles Tarrance, maybe even Denny T, and a whole bunch of people that have been with Dennis & Nanette....media & LE....will make our country better.

Trolls- please stop burying this thread. Dennis, I feel for you but I think you can breathe a sigh of relief when you see the truth that's in the ciphers & communications symbols. You know JT was troubled but he was, like you said, a good father and I am confident that he was an avenger not a serial killer. No wonder I have never been afraid of dealing with Jack in any way, shape or form because he is not what many have said Zodiac was.

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I first read this post by catseye about 5 hours ago. I refrained from responding because I was worried I would not be able to contain myself and strive to be respectful of the members of this board.

I find this post extremely disturbing and I must admit it makes me worry about catseye's perceptions of reality. From what I recall Dennis writing, Jack was NOT a good father. He belittled Dennis constantly over the years, exhibited violent outburts, didn't support his family, AND killed Dennis' mother! So even if we leave his serial killing aside, Jack was not a good man and not a good father. Why catseye keeps trying to make Jack look like this wonderful man is truly beyond me. In the past she has claimed he was a genius with a higher education, ignoring Dennis' statements that Jack's schooling stopped after 8th grade. She has said that Jack was a math genius and some Atomic energy expert. If he was all that, why couldn't he get any good jobs after he left General Electric? Why was Dennis' mom forced to go on public assistance? Catseye's insistence that Jack was a genius makes no sense to me.

Then she started posting things about what a good man he was and how he loved his family. I for one don't think a serial killer can be called a good man. I will concede serial killers can love some people, but that's it. I do not agree that he was a family man when it is a fact that he treated his family badly and wouldn't support them. Didn't some of his children or step children say Jack molested them? How can catseye reconcile all this with her claim that Jack was a loving family man?

Now she is suggesting that Jack is not a serial killer because he killed for some purpose. Since she calls Jack a soldier or an avenger, I assume she thinks Jack's reason for killing innocent people was a noble one. Let's look at the facts. Zodiac/Jack attacked kids parked in cars and picnicking at a lake. And a cab driver just doing his job. How can any of these killings and attacks be justified? Jack didn't know any of these people. None of them had done him wrong. They were not threats to society that needed to be "eliminated." These were random acts of violence. There was nothing noble in what he did. He WAS a serial killer, but for some reason catseye is trying to say he was not.

Catseye writes that she is confident Jack was an avenger and not a serial killer. Based on what? When you avenge you are getting revenge for an injury. How did any of these innocent victims hurt Jack or anyone he may have loved? These were hideous crimes and catseye now appears to be saying the victims brought their fates upon themselves and that Zodiac/Jack had a good reason to kill and maim. I found all this highly disturbing. Why she has this constant need to turn Jack into some sort of hero is beyond me. I actually think it is sort of sick.

As for her comments about trolls burying threads, I don't even understand them. How can people bury threads? Threads are there or they are not. If she is talking about searching for threads like TerryB was talking about on ISP's, there's no way a troll who reads this board has the ability to make an ISP bury a thread. If catseye can't find this thread on the internet, maybe she isn't using the right search terms?

Also, she seems to be suggesting some of the trolls are people on this board. She says "I agree with you trolls: OUR 20th & 21st C USA GOVT SUCKS and WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER BY WORKING WITH PEOPLE, TREATING WHO WERE HERE FIRST WITH RESPECT, NOT IGNORING THEM!" Well, the only people I see posting here recently about our government are Nanette and TerryB, so is she calling them trolls? As for her idea about treating the people who came first with respect, I have to laugh, since she certainly did not do that with the veteran members of Dennis' board. She heckled and banned many of them. And I recall Dennis posting at least once that she had banned some of his friends.

I wonder what she is referring to when talks about ignoring the people who were here first. Here where? On this board? People who were the first to bring Jack to the attention of LE and the public? Who is doing the ignoring? I wish she would make her points and accusations clear.
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I agree with sixtieschick completely, I couldn't have put it better. It's like catseye is taunting the victims memory and family, she's not well between the ears. Trying to label us trolls when she's the biggest troll this board has seen!

That whole business I brought up about ISP's and search engines is so that we're vigilant and that the realzodiackiller.com is readily available to anyone searching the subject. Let me give you an example about the related technology of cellphones; cellphones have an internal file that relates to something called "priority stacking", the local fire departments and LE have a priority of #1, in other words if the cellphone traffic is high and the fire dept or police need to get through those folks with higher numbers may get bumped off there line. I hope that correlates and that it makes sense.

Thanks for posting what you did sixtieschick, it helps.

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Thanks, TerryB. Her post still has me scratching my head and shaking it in disbelief. catseye wrote
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These real cipher symbols have lead to areas that say Zodiac wasn't a serial killer. It was the newspapers and the US Government laws that added the word killer. My apologies to Tarrance family for going along with what USA legal system and publications stated about what they thought ZK was. Yes, Jack was a killer but so are those who believe in a cause like wars, protecting lands


So she is saying that the Hardens's copy of the 3 part cipher symbols lead her to conclude Zodiac/Jack wasn't a serial killer, but instead was killing for some cause he believed in. For one thing, as discussed previously, using the Hardens's symbols is ludicrous, since they are NOT the ones written by Zodiac/Jack. They cannot point to any "truth" about the Zodiac/Jack. She is using bogus symbols, just like she uses the bogus Lass cipher symbols and the bogus BY KKASE. Any conclusions she derives from these non-Zodiac symbols/writing can't prove anything about Zodiac/Jack. It's like she goes on these wild goose chases, but refuses to see that she is doing so.

Second, just what is this noble cause Zodiac/Jack killed and attacked for? How were teens, college students and a cab driver hurting anyone or doing anything that needed avenging?

Remember too that catseye believes Jack murdered Elizabeth Short. The Black Dahlia murder is one of the most horrific and sadistic crimes I can recall. The killer tortured her over an extended period of time, made her eat feces, mutilated her body and then cut her in two and drained her of blood, stuck things in her body cavities and tossed the corpse out in a public area for all to see and thus compound the degradation of Elizabeth Short. Yet, Jack, according to catseye, was a loving family man and a good dad and a person who killed for righteous reasons. There is nothing good or righteous in what was done to Elizabeth Short.

How she can praise and defend him and still believe he killed and hurt all those people is beyond me.

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sixtieschick, I still say that catseye's goal is to make us all look like were looney crackpots. She seems to have a dog's mentality, meaning if she can't eat it or fuck it then piss on it. Pardon me for being so blunt. I too have been exasperated in having to put up with catseye. Maybe her goal is to suck up to Jacks co-conspirators, maybe she figures that if she acts as crazy as they have that they might bring her into there confidence, if this is the case she'd be better off sticking her hand in box of poisonous snakes.

On another note, I've been studying up on the Gareth Penn business because of what Dennis has said, as you know the subject has a lot of twists and turns, I don't doubt the radian theory, I'm just trying to sort it all out. I'll read the Gareth Penn thread and go from there, thanks again sixtieschick.

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Jacks Cipher symbols are Zuni, Apache, Navajo Constellations, Shoshone, Greek & Dutch Constellations, Cherokee Syllabary, and so much more. For now, see http://www.707Catseye.net/id21.html Thanks for hanging in there Dennis and Nanette! He's always been Black Dahlia Avenger. To all who insist on attacking/hating: work with us, not against us and be careful who's ire you stir up. There's alot of angry people out there who feel the same way about the Indians that JT appears to have felt.
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Oh my, another thinly veiled threat. More fuzzy logic and nonsense from catseye.
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Yes, TerryB, catseye seems to think that if people disagree with her or question her new solution, then that means they are also attacking Native Americans. Nothing could be further from the truth. No one here is attacking Native Americans or making light of the awful treatment they suffered.
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I haven't been bashing her as much as questioning her reasoning, she's the one that gets sharped tongued when anyone other than Nanette or Dennis question her. I'm not out to antagonize her.

For example; if catseye would quit calling me and sixtieschick trolls when we question her reasoning then the verbal abuse wouldn't intensify. Remember that catseye was removed as a moderator on this board because of her poor treatment of others.


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